Sometimes genuine liberals follow the facts, have an awakening, and/or reject woke ideology.  Only then can you have a real, substantive conversation.  Joining us today for that real conversation is a genuine liberal, Neil Kiernan, host of the V-Radio podcast.  In an extended chat, he and John discuss the toxic nature of biased journalism, the best ways to reach people from the other side of the ideological aisle, and their individual experiences battling the globalist agenda.  More and more people – on both sides – are getting sick of the craziness and moving to more rational and sane conversations.

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