Side by Side transcript of Rick Warren's questions with Barak Obama and John McCain 08/16/08.

WHO ARE THE THREE WISEST PEOPLE YOU KNOW IN YOUR LIFE AND WHO ARE YOU GOING TO RELY ON HEAVILY IN YOUR ADMINISTRATION?

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE, RICK. YOU'RE WELCOME. I LOVE THE MINISTRIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE HERE AT SADDLEBACK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE BEEN HERE. FIRST TIME WE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME -- ARE CONSTANTLY HELPING TO SHAPE MY VIEWS AND MY OPINIONS. YOU MENTIONED ONE PERSON ID BE LISTENING TO AND THAT'S MICHELLE, MY WIFE, WHO IS NOT ONLY WISE BUT SHE'S HONEST. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED -- I THINK ANY LEADER NEEDS IS SOMEBODY WHO CAN GET UP IN YOUR FACE AND SAY, BOY, YOU REALLY SCREWED THAT ONE UP. YOU REALLY BLEW THAT. ANOTHER PERSON IN THAT CATEGORY IS MY GRANDMOTHER WHO'S AN EXTRAORDINARY WOMAN. SHE WAS NEVER WENT TO COLLEGE. SHE WORKED ON A BOMBER ASSEMBLY LINE DURING WORLD WAR II WHEN MY GRANDFATHER WAS AWAY, CAME BACK, GOT A JOB AS A SECRETARY, WORKED HER WAY UP TO BECOME A BANK VICE PRESIDENT BEFORE SHE RETIRED AND SHE'S JUST A VERY GROUNDED COMMON SENSE NO FUSS NO FRILL KIND OF PERSON AND WHEN I'VE GOT BIG DECISIONS I OFTEN CHECK IN WITH HER. IN TERMS OF THE ADMINISTRATION OR HOW I WOULD APPROACH THE PRESIDENCY, I DON'T THINK I'D RESTRICT MYSELF TO THREE PEOPLE. THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE SAM DUNN A DEMOCRAT OR DICK LUKER A REPUBLICAN WHO I LISTENED TO ON POLICY ON DOMESTIC POLICY. I GOT FRIENDS RANGING FROM TED KENNEDY TO TOM COLBERT WHO DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS BUT WHO BOTH, I THINK, HAVE A SINCERE DESIRE TO SEE THIS COUNTRY IMPROVE. WHAT I FOUND IS VERY HELPFUL TO ME IS TO HAVE A TABLE WHERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW ARE REPRESENTED AND WHERE I CAN SIT AND POKE AND PROD AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS. SO THAT I'M NOT -- SO THAT ANY BLIND SPOTS I HAVE OR PREDISPOSITIONS THAT I HAVE THAT MY ASSUMPTIONS ARE CHALLENGED AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY IMPORTANT.
FIRST ONE I THINK WOULD BE GENERAL DAVID PATREAS ONE OF GREAT MILITARY LEADERS IN AMERICA HISTORY WHO TOOK US FROM DEFEAT TO VICTORY IN IRAQ. ONE OF THE GREAT LEADERS. FOURTH OF JULY A YEAR AGO SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM AND I WERE YEAR AGO WERE IN BAGDAD. 688 BRAVE AMERICANS WHOSE ENLISTMENT HAD EXPIRED SWORE AN OATH OF REENLISTMENT TO STAY AND FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. ONLY SOMEONE LIKE DAVID PATREAS COULD MOTIVATE SOMEBODY LIKETHAT. I THINK JOHN LEWIS. JOHN LEWIS WAS AT THE EDMUND PETTUS BRIDGE. HAD HIS SKULL FRACTURED. CONTINUES TO SERVE. CONTINUES TO HAVE THE MOST OPTIMISTIC OUTLOOK ABOUT AMERICA. HE CAN TEACH US ALL A LOT ABOUT THE MEANINGS OF COURAGE AND COMMITMENT TO CAUSES GREATER THAN OURSELF. MEG WHITMAN. MEG WHITMAN THE CEO OF E-BAY, MEG WHITMAN, 12 YEARS AGO THERE WERE FIVE EMPLOYEES. TODAY THEY ARE ONE AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE THAT MAKE A LIVING OFF E-MAIL IN AMERICA IN WORLD. ONE OF THESE GREAT AMERICAN SUCCESS CHALLENGING TIMES WE NEED TO CALL ON THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE, BACKGROUND OF PEOPLE LIKE MEG WHITMAN WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SUCH A GREAT AMERICA SUCCESS STORY PART OF THE WORLD'S FOLKLORE.
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