Cultural Marxists Organizing Churches Through Interfaith Dialogue

Good evening and welcome to our Situation Room Briefing. Glad you’ve joined us tonight. We’re going to talk about organizing churches for Marxism. Going to be a very interesting program. We’re going to talk about where Barack Obama got his start. He got his start with a group known as the Gamaliel Institute. And in fact, the founder of the Gamaliel Institute brought him to Chicago. Taught him how to be a community organizer. And Barack Obama says this man, Jeffrey Galluzzo, who brought him to Chicago, is most responsible for him becoming president of the United States. He’s a former Jesuit who studied under Saul Alinsky. And would you know that it was the Gamaliel Institute that was involved in helping shut down our Worldview Weekend rallies in several cities in April 2018? We found out it was not only the groups like Antifa, or the groups like CAIR or other Muslim groups. There were also interfaith dialogue groups involved, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, that I think is really a front group for communism. But also was involved is a group known as the Gamaliel Institute. And so the Gamaliel Institute is what we’re talking about tonight.

They were involved in shutting us down and wow, if you’re going to get shut down, I guess this is one of the groups to get shut down by because they apparently helped to put President Barack Obama in the White House. So clearly, they must think that our Worldview Weekend Rallies were a threat to their worldview. In one regard, it's kind of a compliment to us. We think it's kind of a compliment to be shut down by a group so big, so powerful they could be involved in putting a man in the White House that they turned their attention toward little old Worldview Weekend and our Worldview Weekend rallies. I guess we are right over the target. When you’re catching the most flack you know you’re right over the target, right? I guess we were right over the target.

But did you know that this group is organizing under the auspices of interfaith dialogue and interfaith networks? But they’re a Marxist group. This is another clear indication of the red/green axis – the red being Marxism and the green being that of the Jihadi flag – the Muslims and the Marxists working in concert together to shut down those who oppose their worldview. The Marxists and the Muslims will figure out later who’s in charge. But for now, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And so they see America as their enemy. They see Christianity as their foe. They see a capitalist nation, America, as the target. They want a revolution in America. And of course, a lot of this also comes from our support of the nation of Israel.

So let’s talk tonight about the Gamaliel Institute or network or foundation. I hope you have a Bible with you tonight, cause we’re going to look at a lot of scripture. Did you know this name actually shows up in Acts 5, as well as in Acts 22? This name Gamaliel. This is going to be a very interesting program just from that perspective.

We’ll also go over to James 5 where you’ll find on YouTube an event being held for the Gamaliel Network and they have a “pastor” or someone speaking. And he quotes from the Book of James. James 5. To show how their cause is one of opposing the rich and the wealthy who are oppressing people. Reality is James 5 very well would mean they are the ones being discussed as we’ll see. So I hope you have a Bible handy cause we’ll be looking at that a lot tonight.

But look at this map here. With 44 affiliates and 7 state offices in 17 states, Gamaliel works to build strong metropolitan and statewide organizations. Do you see your state represented? I see, of course, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, California, Tennessee, my home state of Tennessee. There’s – Indiana. I mean we could just keep going. There’s a lot of states represented there. And here is a screenshot from this group known as “Wisdom.” You see, the Gamaliel Network likes to name a lot of their affiliates’ names that sound Christian. Esther. Jonah. Isaac. And this one is Wisdom. And it’s out of Wisconsin. And look what it says. It says, “thanks to many, many phone calls and expressions of concerns, the Understanding the Threat group canceled the workshop it planned for April 9th. That’s us!”

We were holding an “Understanding the Threat” Worldview Weekend rally. They say, not only that, “after being exposed in Green Bay and Pewaukee, they shut down their entire planned Midwest tour. This is a group, the Southern Poverty Law Center categorizes as an anti-Muslim hate group. Make no mistake, they canceled their recruiting events because so many of you called the venues to let them know what kind of group was attempting to use their facilities. Congratulations.”

Well, that’s the Gamaliel’s Wisconsin branch boasting about shutting down our Worldview Weekend rally in those five cities. By the way, we announced that these were going to be our last five cities to do free Worldview Weekend rallies other than our Ozarks’ conference because of the continued threats and the growing cost of security. Remember in April 2017, a Muslim man from Saudi Arabia came into our conference with a Koran and two weapons, filmed it on Facebook Live, and was escorted out by our paid off-duty police officers we had to hire. The police in their own report noticed the man driving recklessly, coming into the parking lot next door. Pulling out of that slot. Driving at a high rate of speed toward the hotel. Driving recklessly. Acting suspiciously. Yet they didn’t bother to stop him. I’m sorry, I don’t know what was going on there in Sioux Falls with their police department. Maybe they’ve been bought out by and overseen by too much political correctness and all the Muslims who have been dumped there.

By the way, I understand the man, the attorney general of the state who was running for governor, lost his primary last week. That’s too bad, isn’t it? No. I think that’s very good news. Because there was a state representative in the room that night that literally got into a yelling match I’m told over the phone with the attorney general of South Dakota because he didn’t want to charge this man, this Saudi Muslim, with terroristic threats. And so it took us making it an international news story. And he’s running for governor. The attorney general of South Dakota. And had the audacity a few months ago to actually cite our event and how he handled it as an example of how he would be a good governor.

Well, the backstory is he only charged the guy, I believe, after we turned it into an international news story. So quite frankly, I’m glad to hear he lost his primary. The attorney general of South Dakota has proven, in my opinion, that he is not a man of principle that deserves that high office. So I’m glad he lost.

But after that event in April 2017, we announced these would be our last five cities to do other than our Ozarks conference, due to the high cost of security. And, frankly, we couldn’t trust the police anymore. That’s not an indictment of all police, but it is an indictment of the political correctness of many, many of our police departments and sheriff departments. You doubt me, just do a quick study. And you’ll see what I’m talking about.

And so here we are announcing our last five cities to do Worldview Weekend rallies after 25 years. And this group known as Wisdom was involved in shutting us down. And they’re bragging about it.

Well, let’s talk a little bit about the Gamaliel Institute or Gamaliel Network. Here’s an article that I found several years ago while writing my book, Religious Trojan Horse. It’s dated 2011. And it’s from Chicago Mag. And it says,

“The End of Community Organizing in Chicago? Barack Obama, the man dubbed the organizer in chief, left Chicago for the White House, and the business of community organizing in the city now faces an uncertain future. What’s more, the movement – once rooted in liberalism – is being adopted by groups on the right, including the Tea Party. It has now been more than four years since Barack Obama threw an arm around Gregory Galluzzo in Iowa and confided that whenever anybody asked how his presidential campaign had so quickly assembled its grassroots operation, it would credit Galluzzo’s mentorship. A former Jesuit priest who had been drawn to Chicago by the work of Saul Alinsky, the father of community organizing. Galluzzo had good reason to feel proud. He was indirectly responsible for bringing young Barack Obama to Chicago to be an organizer. Obama’s subsequent election was like a son winning an office, says Galluzzo.”

And where did Barack Obama work? He worked for the Gamaliel Network that was reorganized and founded as the Gamaliel Network by this former Jesuit, Gregory Galluzzo who you just heard about. In fact, look at this. This is from The New York Times. March 22, 2014. The headline, The Catholic Roots of Obama’s Activism. What does it say?

“‘He had to do a power analysis of each Catholic Church,’ said one of his mentors at the time, Gregory Galluzzo, a former Jesuit priest and disciple of the organizer Saul Alinsky. ‘Mr. Obama,’ Mr. Galluzzo said, ‘soon understood the chain of command and who had influence in individual parishes.”

Here’s another article. This one is from CBS Chicago. “Activists Who Taught Obama to be Community Organizer is Retiring.” The article says, “Gamaliel was founded in 1986 to train community and faith leaders to build political power and create organizations that unite people of diverse faiths and races.”

Well, there you have it, folks. CBS Chicago says, “Who is the founder of the Gamaliel Network? Gregory Galluzzo, who mentored a young Barack Obama and taught him the art of Saul Alinsky community organizing.”

And now today they are known as a Marxist interfaith network. In 17 states. But, my friends, if you did not see your state represented on the map we showed, chances are still good, you have multiple Marxist, Muslim, red/green axis interfaith groups in your state. Just simply type in your state with the name ‘interfaith network.’ Interfaith Network Pennsylvania. Interfaith Network California. Interfaith Network, you know, pick whatever state you want. Kentucky. Massachusetts. Delaware. Arkansas. You will find that you have interfaith Marxist Muslim groups in your state.

And Gregory Galluzzo, the former Jesuit priest who studied Saul Alinsky, who mentored Barack Obama, turned him into a community organizer and who, Barack Obama says, gets really most of the credit for him being president. Why? Because he helped him win the ground game in the Iowa primary and defeat Hillary Clinton and go on to become president of the United States. He is the one in 1986 who founded the Gamaliel Institute. And this is the group that came against us in Wisconsin.

So again I say, if you’re going to have a group shut you down, come against you, it might as well be one of the big dogs. Because if a big dog like that with that kind of power to put a man in the White House thinks it’s important enough to shut us down, we must be actually accomplishing something, huh? So that’s one bright side of it.

Now let’s talk a little bit about Saul Alinsky. Because again, Gregory Galluzzo studied him and then of course taught Barack Obama all about it. Barack Obama actually worked for the Gamaliel Network and its affiliates.

Let’s talk a little bit about Saul Alinsky, just to remind you. This is from my book Grave Influence that I wrote in 2008, came out in 2009. February 2, 2009. Investor’s Business Daily article entitled, “Alinsky Rules Must Reading in Obama Era.” They write this over there at Investors Business Daily:

[quote] Alinsky’s worldview was that mankind is divided into three parts – the ‘haves,’ the ‘have-nots’ and the ‘have-a-little, want-mores.’ His purpose was to teach the have-nots how to take power and money away from the haves by creating mass organizations to seize power. And he admitted this means revolution. He wanted a radical change of American’s social and economic structure, and he planned to achieve that through creating public discontent and moral confusion. Alinsky developed strategies to achieve power through mass organization and organizing was his word for revolution. He wanted to move the US from capitalism to socialism where the means of production would be owned by all people. Meaning the government. A believer in economic determinism he viewed unemployment, disease, crime and bigotry as byproducts of capitalism. ‘Change’ was Alinsky’s favorite word, used on page after page. ‘I will argue,’ he wrote ‘that man’s hopes lie in the acceptance of the great law of change.’ [end quote]

And what was Barack Obama’s big word? Change. When he was running for president the first time and all throughout his eight years it was all about change, right? Hope and change. This is what he got from Saul Alinsky.

In fact, in his book Rules for Radicals, which, by the way, don’t forget in the original version the dedication was to Lucifer, who was the first rebel who at least won his own kingdom. But in Rules for Radicals, this is what Saul Alinsky writes. “A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat. By the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism. Then into the third stage of reorganization. Into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat. And finally, the last stage, the political paradise of communism.”

So do you see what all these interfaith groups are doing, folks? They’re organizing churches under the guise of Christianity and it is a false Christianity. They’re working with so-called pastors. Hirelings. False teachers. Muslims. Unitarian, Universalists, New Agers – all for the purpose of hijacking religious terms, turning Jesus into a social justice warrior and ending what they say are the consequences of capitalism. They say high unemployment is a cause of capitalism. Yet here we are, in June 2018. And now we have more open jobs in America than we have people to fill them. Did you know that? We now have more jobs open and waiting for someone to fill them than we have Americans to fill them. We have unemployment in the black community and the Hispanic community at historic lows. And yet they bemoan about unemployment. Well, that’s because they don’t want to work, folks. This is all about destroying capitalism, as you just heard.

Saul Alinsky said, “An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent. He must create a mechanism that can drain all the underlining guilt for having accepted the previous situation for so long. Out of this mechanism a new community organization arises.”

What did he say there? They wanted to stir up discontent. They want to drain off the underlining guilt for accepting the previous situation for so long. Is that not what’s going on with all of this race baiting? And now we have people like Dave Platte – Neo-Calvinist David Platte, with Together for the Gospel, David Platte with the Gospel Coalition – David Platte sharing the platform at Together for the Gospel with some of the biggest well known evangelical and Bible teachers in America. David Platte now taking over the historic Back to the Bible organization. And there was David Platte bemoaning on and on that racism is alive and well and the church is immersed in racism and we’re deepening the divide and racism is alive and well, evident by high unemployment.

Well, wait a minute. Didn’t I just state that we now have unemployment at record lows? More jobs are open than people are able to take them, or are willing to take them. Don’t we have the unemployment in the black and Hispanic community at historic lows? Yes. And there is David Platte, now, holding a press conference saying, ‘oh, look, racism in America is getting better.’ That doesn’t fit his narrative, does it? That doesn’t fit his worldview.

And so David Platte, I believe, like many of these social justice community organizers that have infiltrated the church, “church”, many of them have infiltrated a false church. They’re trying to have people feel guilty. Just like Saul Alinsky said. You create this guilt and you drain off the underlining guilt for having accepted the previous situation for so long. And so by using the guilt you get people to then join the community organization that’s really all about ending capitalism and having a communist revolution.

Here is an article from the Capital Research Center. The Gamaliel Foundation,  Alinsky-inspired group uses stealth tactics to manipulate church congregations. The article says, “former Gamaliel organizer, Ray Lopez Cauldron, recalls that he had ‘never seen such a strange and warped culture.’” Writing in the online journal Blog Critics, Lopez Calderon notes that Galluzzo and Gonzales would pit Gamaliel staff against each other. “Galluzzo told me that he wanted organizers to be tough ‘blanks’ – starts with a B. Illegitimate child is another word for it. To be tough ‘blanks’ who could build power like the conquistadors.”

The article goes on to say, in an interview with the Foundation Watch, Lopez Cauldron said that in 2007, Galluzzo gave organizers a seminar called, “The Courage to Create.” One part of the seminar was called, “Walking the Edge of the Immorality.” He goes on to say:

[quote] In this particular part it was more about willing to be ruthless. They actually used the word ‘ruthless,’ says Lopez Cauldron. “It talked about how if people are getting in the way of what you want to achieve as an organizer, you should be willing to push those people out of your way. The idea was that’s how power works. It’s dirty. You have to get your hands dirty. But at the end, when you have enough power, you’ll be able to do the right thing. And Galluzzo would talk about the conquistadors and how they were willing to take risk and not worry about what other people thought of them in order to build power. The idea was to get people to make shady decisions in order to build power. [end quote]

Well, there you go folks. The end justifies the means. Be ruthless. And you now understand why it is that a few years ago I told you as we were seeing more and more civil unrest in America, the Ferguson situation, the protests in many cities, Baltimore and too many cities to count. Chicago – where they were burning and looting and rioting, and pulling people out of their cars and beating them. And then, of course, when Trump began to run for president, they began to beat conservatives. And I told you then a few years ago, the day was coming when we would not be able to hold Worldview Weekend rallies because of the climate in America. That it was going to become too dangerous for conservatives and Christians to say certain things and to collectively gather together in many, many cities. And I don’t know if you guys remember that, but I warned you that that was coming. We could see that trend, couldn’t we? And indeed, it has happened. We just didn’t expect it would happen to us. We saw it happening to other folks in the street being ripped out of their cars or their businesses burned and looted. Or people targeted and beat up because they were wearing a conservative hat or shirt. But our prediction came true by what happened to us, with a gunman coming into our conference in Sioux Falls, and then ANTIFA groups, communist groups, CAIR, Southern Poverty Law Center that I think is a front group for communism. And the Marxist inspired interfaith Gamaliel network doing what they did to us in Wisconsin – all an example of them being ruthless and vile and walking on the edge of immorality. I would say they’ve actually crossed over.

But every time they attack us folks, we grow. We have now record numbers streaming our radio show, streaming our TV shows. We’re constantly having to kick up our bandwidth and the allotment of streams that we do. We’re constantly having to put in new servers and add new virtual servers to handle the load. So every time they come against us, our own words predicting the trends, people see that we were ahead of the curve in predicting what was coming and we gained more followers. And people say, well, if they’re being shut down by groups like this, they must be pretty good guys, right?

And indeed, every time they attack us, by God’s providence, I believe we’re growing. In fact, this studio, this is our first broadcast, folks, in this brand new studio. Look at this. Our last studio – one door over – was so small that really I could only put myself and one other person at the desk. Now this room is large enough for us to have several people. We have these black curtains that just went in behind us. Believe it or not, just to put those curtains on that one wall was $2,000. We still have a few more walls to go. And when we’re done, we’ll be able to have our cameras swing around and actually have four or five bistro chairs over there. And when we do Friday night, all day Saturday conferences, we’ll be able to go from the news desk to having all the four, five, six speakers sitting over there on bistro chairs waiting to take your questions. Now if we swung over there right now you wouldn’t – you’d be seeing sheetrock. But when it’s all said and done, it’ll be a black curtain going across that wall. And we’ll be able to do more because we’ve now moved into this bigger room. One room over from our very small studio.

And so, again, why did we expand this studio as you’re seeing now? Because we found out we really can’t hold Friday night, Saturday conferences other than our one in the Ozarks at a resort with a gate out front. That it’s getting too dangerous to go into places like St. Louis and Milwaukee and Madison and Minneapolis. I don’t guess they really care about what we’re up to in the Ozarks. I don’t think the folks down in the Ozarks and sheriff department we work with down there, those good old boys, wouldn’t tolerate it. They already told us that two years ago. That those thugs had better not come to the Ozarks because they don’t operate the same way they do in Minneapolis as far as political correctness. They actually don’t operate the way they do in Sioux Falls. They don’t act like the attorney general of South Dakota. They actually have courage and guts and actually apply the law. They’re not afraid of the Marxist and the Muslims.

But when they shut us down, we said, ‘you know what? We’re just going to expand our TV studio. And we’ll do Friday night, Saturday conferences here.’ And we come to you every Sunday night, most Sunday nights with this. Live streaming The Situation Room Briefing. But two nights, two weekends this fall, I think it’s November 2 and 3, we’ll have a national security conference with former CIA officers, operations officers Claire Lopez, Dr. Peter Pry, also former CIA operations officer. Also the chief of staff of the E&P commission for Congress, who was on Mark Levin’s program for an hour. And they’ve aired that twice now on Fox News on Sunday night. We broadcast his program. We produce his program. We distribute his program at Worldview We’ll also have with us former Muslim Shahram Hadian with a new talk. We’ll have former Department of Homeland Security officer, Phil Haney, with us who’s been on Sean Hannity’s program 14 times. He actually guest hosted Sean Hannity’s radio show a few years ago. He’s the author of the book, See Something, Say Nothing.

So we’re going to have a great lineup. Friday night, and then all day Saturday, November 2 and 3. And you’ll be able to take part by sending in your questions. And we’ll have them over there for at least two panels on that side of that studio. So we’re expanding. And we’re going to reach more people. So every time they come against us we grow and we get more creative with the technology available to us. And then the Friday night and Saturday before Thanksgiving, I think it’s November 16 and 17, whatever is that Friday and Saturday night before Thanksgiving, we’re doing an International Bible Prophecy conference with Tommy Ice, David Hawking, Messianic Jew, Arnold Fruchtenbam. We’ll have with us a few other people as well. My memory escapes me who all we’ll have with us. But we’re going to have a great line up. Oh, Ed Hindson. Ed Hindson.

So, again, we’re excited to be in our new studio after weeks and weeks of work. Still a little bit more to go on the sides, but we’re excited about what we’re going to be able to do.

So these groups that came against us thought they were shutting us down. No, they were only pushing us through another door for expansion and reaching more people. By the way, if you want information on our fall conferences, Friday night and Saturday, the website is – for the national security one. And the URL for the Bible prophecy conference is So just and for information on those.

Well, let’s go back to our keynote slide here. Here is right from the Gamaliel website. Here’s what they say. “Gamaliel’s organizing work draws on struggles for justice by people of faith, spanning many nations, creeds and cultures. Our work draws on biblical scripture, Christ’s life and teaching, the Torah, the Koran, Catholic social teaching and the founding principles of American democracy, the US civil rights movement and many other sources.”

Well, let me just stop right there because we might have some conservative – politically, economically conservative Catholics watching tonight saying, well, wait a minute – the Catholic social teaching, we don’t agree with that part of it. You know just as there is a battle going on within the protestant world between the left and the right, did you know that there’s a war raging within the church of Rome between those who are more politically, economically, socially conservative and the radicals? And many socially and economically conservative Catholics are fed up with Pope Francis. In fact, we have a whole radio show this week by Cliff Kincaid interviewing a Catholic from a Catholic news agency, talking all about the Marxist Pope Francis and what he’s doing.

So I want to make it very clear, I don’t agree with Catholic doctrine and teaching. But I also know that just as there is a war going on between the left and the right in the Protestant world, so is there a battle going on between the left and the right within the church of Rome. And so when they say that they also are following Catholic social teaching, what they’re talking about is the social justice that largely was started by a Jesuit by the name of Luigi Taparelli. In 1840. Karl Marx came along with the Communist Manifesto in 1848.

So the term ‘social justice’ really came from a Jesuit. And we know the Jesuits down there in South America were heavily involved in every communist revolution that they could be a part of, right? The Jesuits. And who started, in 1986, the Gamaliel Network? A Jesuit, Gregory Galluzzo, who mentored in Sal Alinsky and gave him the job as a community organizer and trained him. Barack Obama, of whom Barack Obama says Gregory Galluzzo is most responsible for helping him win the White House.

Well, on their own website, look what we have here. All their different little networks. Pennsylvania Interfaith Network. Here is their group called Isaac. This is in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Look what the acronym is. Interfaith Strategy for Advancing and Action in the Community. Which gives them the acronym Isaac.

How about this one? On the Kalamazoo, Michigan Isaac website. This Gamaliel affiliate. Here’s what they say. “We are Isaac. We are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Unitarians and nonreligious. We’re black, Latino, Asian, Pacific Islanders, indigenous, Middle Eastern and white. We’re immigrants. We’re suburban, inner-city and rural. We are haves, have-nots and have-a-little, want mores. We’re bold, tenacious and we don’t back down. We are Kalamazoo County.”

Look at that what it says. We are haves, have-nots and have-a-little, want mores. Where did we just read that? We just read that from my book, Grave Influence, written in 2008, came out in 2009 quoting Saul Alinsky from his book Rules for Radicals. They are haves and have-nots and have-a-little, want mores. This is who Barack Obama worked with. This is who shut us down, folks. Along with the others.

Now look at this screenshot. This is Wisdom affiliate organizations. Notice this. Shows the state of Wisconsin where many of you are watching tonight. And notice the names. Jonah. Naomi. Joshua. Esther, right, Micah. Sophia. Moses. Job. Kush. That would be like Kush is Kenosha. Micah’s in Milwaukee. Esther is Fox Valley. Joshua and Ruth is Green Bay and Manitowoc. Wait a minute, didn’t we have some groups coming against us in Milwaukee and Fox Valley and Green Bay? Yes. Naomi’s Warsaw. Jonah is in Chippewa Valley. Moses is Madison, Wisconsin. Job would be in Beloit, Wisconsin. Sophia is Waukesha County. Pretty interesting, huh?

Look at that. They have one called Expo. Ex-prisoners organizing. Here is Amos. Advocating mobilize and organizing in solidarity. That’s in Lacrosse. Wait a minute. Weren’t we shut down in Onalaska, right next door to Lacrosse? Hmm. Here’s Esther. That stands for Equality, Solidarity, Truth, Hope, Empowerment, Reform. And that’s in Nina, Wisconsin.

By the way, here’s another screenshot. That lower portion is actually our website. They took a screenshot of our website where it says free Green Bay, Wisconsin. Understanding the Threat of Islam to America. That’s my website. That’s our website. When I say ‘our,’ I mean yours and mine. Those of us that work together and keep this organization afloat. They’re taking that screenshot. And look what they said up at the top? Red and black anarchist. Fox Valley ANTIFA. That’s the communist group. And what do they say there on their post? “Phone blast. Please call no matter where you live. Tell the proud partners of the Green Bay Packers to” – whoa, I can’t put that on the TV screen. Sorry about that. I should have blocked that out. And then it goes on talking about John Guandolo and us. That’s our organization. Didn’t mean to put that over there, guys. Sorry about that. Good thing I’m quick at reading a few words ahead of the ball game.

And here you have Joshua, which stands for Justice Organization Sharing Hope and United for Action. That’s in Green Bay. Jonah – Joining Our Neighbors Advancing Hope. That’s in Eau Claire – that’s only like an hour from Minneapolis, St. Paul. Micah, Milwaukee Inner-city Congregations Allied for Hope.

And then, of course, right on their own website they talk about training. They have clergy training. This is, again, back to the whole idea of organizing churches for Marxism. Clergy training on their own website states a three-day training program conducted by and for the Gamaliel National Clergy Caucus and other clergy leaders. This training includes tools, concepts and methodologies for becoming effective in balancing the demands of their own institutions, with issues of justice and community concerns. It also provides a supportive network of clergy experiencing similar demand.

So they’re going to organize religious leaders for Marxism, under the interfaith network. Here’s an article from Discover the Networks. If you ever go to, it's actually put out by David Horowitz, who was a Marxist himself. And now is and has been for many, many years, a diehard conservative, David Horowitz, fighting the Marxists, fighting the Muslims. I love his website, Front Page He has a ton of websites. But one of them is And when you go there and you look up about the Gamaliel network here’s what he says:

[quote] "In 2001, Dennis Jacobson, director of the Gamaliel National Clergy Caucus published ‘Doing Justice,’ subtitled, ‘Congregations and Community Organizing.’ Handbook. Ideological guide for Gamaliel Foundation’s religious organizers. Depicting the US as a ‘sick society’ in need of radical transformation, this text derides America’s free market system for allegedly harming the poor.”

The author affirms that the Gamaliel Foundation’s goal is to format public anger and ‘shake the foundations of the society.’ “Though he never mentions socialism explicitly, Jacobson praises the communal property arrangements of the early Christians, the ‘radical sharing’ practiced by various African groups. A self-described ‘radical Christian,’ Jacobson acknowledges that he has ‘deep prejudices against wealthy people.’ He contends that Christians who view America as a just society are plagued by ‘false consciousness.’” [end quote] 

Folks, the church started in Acts 2, and then we move forward and we look at what they were doing and having all things in common. They were not involved in socialism. It says that they sold their property as there was need. They were eating in their houses and going house to house. They owned property. They were just willing, voluntarily, to sell whatever asset they have to come up with money to provide for the new believers who’d come to Jerusalem and to study and to learn more about God. But they were not living in communism. Or a commune. And I have a whole chapter on this in Religious Trojan Horse, and I have a social section in my book Twisted Scripture, Twisted Theology. If you’re a member of the Situation Room at, you’re automatically a member of our powerful biblical online Worldview software, And all you have to do when you go to is type in Acts 2 or type in socialism or type in Christians and communism or Christians and socialism. And you’ll find all kinds of articles where I’m laying out from the scripture what was really going on.

But again, it states that it was their property that they were selling as people had need. They were in their homes eating their food and going house to house. They were not involved in communism or communal living. By the way, this Dennis Jacobson guy, I think he’s from the Milwaukee area. I think he is a reverend or something in the Milwaukee area.

Well, over at Discover the networks it goes on to say, according to Rutgers, political scientist Heidi Schwarz, who has studied the Gamaliel Foundation extensively, Gamaliel’s organizers engage freely in ideological talk when speaking privately among themselves, but they carefully avoid such talk during their trainings so as not to alienate working class people. In those settings the organizers present their ideas as pragmatic “common sense solutions” for “working families.”

So, again, they know that many of the working class are not into communism. So to appeal to the working class they avoid using communist phrases and terminology and buzzwords. They’re manipulating people. But remember, they were already told and instructed to be ruthless – to walk that line of immorality. The end justifies the means. So they lie to people to get them to follow their group and what their initiatives are really all about. But of course many of them know openly what the movement’s all about. Anyone who has a search engine now knows.

Here’s a screenshot. This is a screenshot I grabbed from a Gamaliel Foundation or Gamaliel Network YouTube video. It says,

[quote] “Our New Long Term Agenda. As a faith based community organizing network we, the people of Gamaliel, build power to transform the world as it is into the new world envisioned by people of faith. We recognize the historic and present violations of and systemic sins against our people and our values. And in response we commit to a long term agenda that creates structural, racial equity. Builds people’s control of government. Of course, when they mean building control of the government for the people, they mean socialism. Builds community control of the economy. And expands the public sphere. Together we act boldly and defiantly to call out “empire,” to dismantle structural racism and poverty and to establish the “beloved community.” [end quote]

Now folks, you need to understand, when they talk about the ‘empire,’ they’re talking about America. They’re talking about the empire of America, and bringing it down and restructuring it. When they talk about dismantle structural racism and poverty, what they’re talking about is dismantling the capitalist system. That’s what they’re talking about. Again, they try to avoid using certain words to hide what they’re talking about. But this is clearly what they’re talking about. And don’t forget, we have the fifteenth annual White Privilege Conference. It was held in Madison, Wisconsin a few years ago with the undercover video of folks saying, well, if you’re a Christian and have conservative values and you’re a capitalist you’re a racist. So just by being a capitalist, folks, you’re a racist.

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Look at this. This is also a screenshot from their YouTube video. Look at what it says there. Pharaoh’s empire. Now you probably can’t read the word that’s got all the arrows going there. But I was able to blow it up a little bit bigger to figure out what they’re saying. We’ll start with the top arrow.

Get control of government. So the communists, the Marxists want to get control of government. Then they want to deregulate. Well, of course conservatives are for deregulation when there’s too much regulation stifling capitalism, free market systems. But when they say ‘deregulate,’ folks, what they mean is to wrestle away control from capitalists.

Then it says they want to privatize, which actually sounds good to the average person. Oh, yeah, we need to privatize more. We need the government running less. We want to privatize more things. That’s not what they mean, folks. When they say privatize, what they mean is nationalize. Have you read the Communist Manifesto lately? Have you read the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto? It calls for nationalizing all kinds of things. Not only have we nationalized our educational system but we’re talking about you nationalize every industry that you can think of. Oil, gas, water, everything.

So when they use these words – deregulate, privatize – to conservatives in the conservative world, that would sound good. But remember, they already have admitted they’re using terms to keep the working class from becoming turned off because they’re using Marxist ideology and terms. So we know what these terms mean. Get control of the government. Deregulate. Privatize. That really means nationalize.

The next one is to use tax policy to consolidate wealth. That means a progressive income tax system that we have in America that is called for, by the way, in the Communist Manifesto – but use it to consolidate wealth for the people. Because, remember, they’re taking over. They’re going to take over the government. They’re going to conquistador Pharaoh’s empire. They want to consolidate all the wealth. So they want to redistribute it so that they – the Marxists – are running the government and have everybody else’s money.

Undermine and distort public programs. How do you do that? You use the Cloward Pivens strategy. The Cloward Pivens strategy of the husband and wife from Columbia University. And what they taught was this Cloward Piven strategy where you put as many people on the welfare system as you can until you collapse the system. So you undermine and distort public programs by getting as many people on the welfare system and then collapse it. Because now all of a sudden there’s not enough money and you are bankrupting cities. And this almost happened to New York City.

The Cloward Piven strategy, as I write about in the book, Grave Influence, which is a PDF for those of you that are Situation Room members. It's in there. All you’d have to do if you’re a member of the Situation Room, again, you’re a member of Worldviewpedia. So just go to, type in ‘Cloward Piven strategy’ and a whole article will come up about it. And they almost bankrupt the city of New York with this strategy by doing what? Undermining and distorting public programs.

Well, the next arrow there to attack Pharaoh’s empire is to weaken democratic centers of power. Well, of course, that means you weaken the church. You weaken any institute – you weaken the police departments. You infiltrate the churches. You infiltrate the police departments. And isn’t it interesting that the interfaith ideology and networks have indeed infiltrated churches, as we’re seeing tonight, false churches and even some once real churches have now been transformed into false churches through this rubbish. And now many of these have infiltrated the democratic power centers such as our police departments and sheriff departments.

So this is their strategy. And I just found that in my research, and then stopped the YouTube video and took a screenshot of it. You can also see at Discover the Networks, they describe how the Gamaliel Network is all about healthcare and transportation equality. But look under healthcare. Citing that Jesus called for his apostles to cure diseases and to heal the sick, Gamaliel contends, the Gamaliel Foundation, also known as the Gamaliel Network, contends that government financed healthcare is a God-given right that should be guaranteed to everyone living in the United States. So there you go. This is pure Marxism.

Now, where did this name Gamaliel come from? Go over to Acts 5 if you have your Bibles. Here’s what we read. “Then the captain went with the officers and brought them without violence. For they feared the people lest they should be stoned. And when they had brought them, they set them before the council and the high priest asked them saying, ‘did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name?’” It would be the name of Jesus. What is going on here folks, in Acts 5 starting in verse 26? The apostles have been preaching Christ. They’ve been preaching Christ and they’re coming under persecution from the religious leaders of their day.

Pick it up in verse 28, saying “did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you fill Jerusalem with your doctrine.” Another word for doctrine is teaching. “And intend to bring this man’s blood on us.” And I believe they’re referring to the blood of Christ who’d been crucified and resurrected and now the disciples are apostles.

Now look at verse 29.

“But Peter and the other apostles answered and said, ‘We ought to obey God rather than men.’” Verse 30. “‘Then God, the God of our fathers, raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree. Him God has exalted to his right hand to be prince and savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. And we are his witnesses to these things and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey him.’ When they heard this they were furious and plotted to kill them. Then one in the council stood up, a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, held in respect by all the people, and commanded them to put the apostles outside for a little while.

And he said to them, ‘men of Israel, take heed yourselves what you intend to do regarding these men. For some time ago Theudas rose up claiming to be somebody. A number of men, about 400, joined him. He was slain, and all who obeyed him and were scattered and came to nothing. After this man, Judas of Galilee rose up in the days of the census and drew away many people after him. He also perished. And all who obeyed him were dispersed. And now I say to you, keep away from these men. And let them alone. For if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing. But if it is of God you cannot overthrow it lest you even be found to fight against God.”

Now some would say, well, look, that Gamaliel guy is a pretty good guy. No. He’s a Pharisee. He’s a teacher of the law. He rejected Christ. He was part of the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin and likely he himself were involved in the murder of Christ even as the apostles were just saying in that text. You took his blood. You put him on a tree.

So this Gamaliel guy is certainly not a good guy here just because he says to his religious leader friends, ‘hey leave these guys alone. If this is of man it’ll fall apart. If it’s not, you’ll be fighting against God.’ Now don’t forget, the religious leaders did indeed believe in God. They just didn’t believe Jesus was God incarnate. They crucified him for saying that he was.

But this guy’s no good guy. God providentially uses good leaders and he providentially uses bad leaders. In this instance, I think God providentially used a bad leader to spare the life of the apostles. Although, of course we know most of the apostles all were eventually martyred, were they not? But it was not God’s providential time for them to be killed. And so God providentially used a bad guy to save the apostles. But we know he was a bad guy.

One reason we know this is if we go over to Acts 22. But let’s finish this. Verse 40 in Acts 5. “And they agreed with him. And when they had called the apostles and beaten them,” (so not good people here), “they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus and let them go. So they departed from the presence of council rejoicing that they were accounted worthy to suffer shame for his name; and daily in the temple and in every house they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.”

Now folks, we are by no means in the same camp as the apostles. We have not almost been stoned. We have not almost been murdered – you know what? I take that back. We were almost murdered in Sioux Falls. Because that Muslim dude with his Koran, Phil Haney and retired FBI guys, Shahram Hadian – a former Muslim, and others will tell you that is very common for them to film their Koran and then pan the crowd before they do something to say, ‘I’m doing this in the name of Allah.’ And I know that the police that were off duty that night that we hired, four of them, the man in charge that night, whose company we hired, he said, ‘I think if you had not hired us, Brannon, and we were not here, this would have turned out much differently. Things would have gone bad.’ They think it would have come to shooting. That’s what they told me.

So while we weren’t almost stoned, perhaps some of us, including some of you that were in that room that night, were almost shot. But we’re not the apostles. We’re not in the same league as them. But they received persecution for preaching Christ, for preaching truth. We received persecution for preaching truth. You receive persecution. Sometimes it’s soft persecution and sometimes it gets very close to being hard persecution, and maybe even eventually close to your life being taken. And maybe that has yet to happen for some of us.

But notice what they did. Verse 42. “And daily in the temple and in every house they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.” Folks, they may persecute us with soft persecution and they may intend to bring hard persecution on us and they may have even intended to kill some of us in Sioux Falls that night. I don’t know. I just know what law enforcement told us that night. If they had not been there, things could have definitely gone the wrong direction, and maybe indeed would have. But I’ll tell you this, we’re going to follow the example of the apostles and we’re going to keep teaching and preaching and proclaiming truth, and we are not going to let them stop us. They will have to kill us to stop us. And then our message will only grow.

All the videos on YouTube. All the videos on Facebook. All the videos on our website. All the books we’ve written. All the radio shows. If they kill us, all they will do is give us a bigger microphone. And a promotion to glory.

Well, lest you think this Gamaliel dude was a good guy, go over to Acts 22. Acts 22:1-8. Let’s look at this. “‘Brethren and fathers, hear my defense before you now.’ And when they heard that he spoke to them in the Hebrew language. This is Paul, formerly Saul. Now the apostle Paul is speaking. Back at verse 2. “And then they heard that he spoke to them in the Hebrew language, they kept all the more silent. Then he said, ‘I am indeed a Jew born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel.’” Brought up at the feet of who? Gamaliel. “‘Taught according to the strictness of our father’s law, and was zealous toward God as you all are today. I persecuted this way to the death.’”

Let me just stop right there. What’s he saying there? ‘I persecuted to the way.’ Christians who followed Christ obviously were Christians. That’s why they were called Christians. They followed Christ. But they were often called ‘the Way.’ They were part of what was known as ‘the Way.’ Prior to being called Christians they were called being part of ‘the Way.’ Well, what is the Way? Jesus, in John 14:6, said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes unto the father except through me.” So they were known as ‘the Way.’ ‘Oh, they’re part of the Way. They’re Christians.’ This is another way of talking about Christians.

So Paul, formerly Saul, talks about what he once did, but as an apostle, now a believer in Jesus, he says, ‘I persecuted the way.’ To the death. “Binding and delivering into prisons both men and women as also the high priest bears me witness and all the council of the elders from whom I also receive letters to the brethren and went to Damascus to bring in chains. Even those who were there to Jerusalem to be punished. Now as it happened, as I journey and came near Damascus about noon, suddenly a great light from heaven shown around me and I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?’ So I answered, ‘who are you, Lord?’ And he said to me, ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting.’”

But notice what he says. Back in verse three. “He was brought up in this way at the feet of Gamaliel.” Paul then goes on to say, “I was persecuting, I was binding, I was putting to death, I was delivering into chains.” Where do you think he learned this? Where do you think he got what he thought was the scriptural basis to do this? From this Sanhedrin man, this Jewish teacher of the law – Gamaliel. Part of the Sanhedrin who crucified Christ. Persecuted Christians. And yet, my friends, what is the Gamaliel network and foundation doing today? Persecuting Christians.

So how appropriate is their name? Gamaliel. Someone who taught Paul how to persecute Christians, people who were part of ‘the Way.’ Now we see the Gamaliel Foundation persecuting Christians and telling the Christians in these cities, ‘we’re going to shut you down. We’re not going to let you gather together as believers or as Christians and have a biblical worldview conversation about Islam and national security or hear from Jimmy DeYoung and Shahram, a former Muslim–now pastor, or someone like Chris Gaubatz, who infiltrated CAIR undercover, and understand more about the worldview of Islam. We’re going to shut you guys down.’ And in reality folks, they were involved in the persecution of Christians.

Now quickly, as we run out of time, go over to James 5. I want to show you this. James 5. This is very interesting. Because this is what I found on YouTube which is one of the Gamaliel speakers using James 5 to justify what they’re doing. He read James 5 on YouTube starting at verse 1. “Come now you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches are corrupted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are corroded and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. Indeed, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out. And the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord. Of Sabbath. You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury. You have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just. He does not resist you. Therefore, be patient brethren until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth. Waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and later rain. You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand. Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the judge is standing at the door. My brethren, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord as an example of suffering and patience.”

Now I want you to go back to verse 3. “In the last days.” When is this talking about? In the last days. Are we in the last days now? I believe indeed we are starting with the ascension of Christ. And there are signs as we enter the last days more and more, right? And certainly we’re seeing the stage being set for Bible prophecy to be fulfilled, much of it after the rapture of the church, if you hold to a pretribulation rapture, as I do.

But for the Gamaliel speaker on YouTube to use James 5 to say that this is what they’re doing, they’re taking on the rich, they’re fighting for a living wage as they push for $15.00 minimum wage. All they’re going to do, by the way, as we see in Seattle and other parts of New York where they’re going to a $15.00 an hour wage, is they’re going to shut entry level jobs out for more people. So you want to talk about income disparity or high unemployment among people, just keep jacking up the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour and fast food restaurants are already saying, ‘we’re just going to automate. We’ll put in a kiosk. You’ll put in your own order. We’ll need less employees to bring the food to you or to take your order. We’ll have a robot do it.’

You see, they don’t care about the people having jobs. They care about a revolution. They care about a mass organization. They want people angry and agitated so they want people unemployed. They want them on the government roll in order to collapse the system. They want people angry. So they become a part of their protest movement and will agitate to the point of conflict to bring about revolution.

But this Gamaliel speaker used James 5:1-10 to say that this is their cause – that they’re fighting the rich who are oppressing them and killing them and cheating them by fraud. And somehow, God is on their side. Well, again, this is in the last days and it's a sign of what will be coming. And it is a sign of how the wicked people will treat true Christians or true followers of God. It could be how some Jews are even treated who follow the true Messiah in the tribulation. But it certainly is the treatment of people who trust in God, trust in Christ – how they’re being treated by the wicked, rich – by people who got rich through fraud. Do you get rich by fraud? If you’re a free market Christian capitalist, have you gotten rich by fraud? No, you’ve gotten rich by – and rich is defined by different people for different ways – wealth. If you have a little bit left over, that’s part of your wealth. As you put your hand to the plow and gain wealth over the course of time. But it’s not by fraud. But they believe that all source of suffering and oppression is the capitalist system.

So, again, this is right up to the coming of the Lord. The judge is standing at the door. So these are in time concepts. These are in time phrases or philosophies being taught out. And so, he’s using this kind of terminology. So for them to use this to say that they are the ones being victimized by the rich – well, certainly not the rich Christian capitalists. We don’t go around cheating people by fraud. We believe what the Bible says about not stealing, not coveting. They’re the ones involved in fraud, stealing and coveting. They’re the ones who have laid out their idea to steal more people’s money through a progressive income tax system, to undermine, distort public programs. To sue, fraud, to collapse our economic systems. They’re really talking about themselves.

And you want to talk about rich, greedy people, look at who funds the Gamaliel Foundation. The Tides Foundation. Look at that. The Rockefeller Foundation. Oh, look at that, George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. You want to talk about rich, powerful people, many of them who have gotten their wealth, I believe, by taking from one that is then given to another through our progressive income tax system, using money and manipulation and manipulating currencies of the world to steal from people, and collapsing currencies. Go study George Soros. This passage, James 5, that the Gamaliel guy was reading from on YouTube that I found, he didn’t realize it but I think he was really reading about himself and his judgement is indeed to come unless he repents.

Now quickly in closing, look at this. Even if it’s not a Gamaliel network, there are many other interfaith networks. Here’s one in Memphis, Tennessee where I live. This is the Worker’s Interfaith Network. Here’s the Pennsylvania Interfaith Impact Network working with CAIR – that’d be the Council on American Islamic Relations. Here’s your Marxist Muslim Coalition again. They’re promoting an event for CAIR and a movie by CAIR.

Here is the Racine. That’s Racine, Wisconsin. Interfaith Coalition. Notice the board of directors includes an imam. And then, you’ve got somebody with a Unitarian universalist New Age church and you’ve got someone with the United Methodist Church and you’ve got someone with Sacred Heart Catholic Church. This is ecumenicalism. This is what an interfaith coalition looks like.

Here is a group in Minnesota. Interfaith Worker Justice. And they’re working with Bethany Lutheran Church in Minneapolis. And you know what’s really sad, my friends? We have been fighting interfaith dialogue big time, particularly since James White came to Memphis, Tennessee, our own town here, last year and held an interfaith dialogue with Jew-hating, Holocaust-denying, Hitler defending imam, Yasir Qadhi, who lives right here in the Memphis area. And you know that we fought interfaith dialogue then, and before then.

And James White sat there and said that he sensed a ‘kindred spirit’ with this man, who we have on video talking about the Jews and their crooked noses and they’re not real Jews, and the Holocaust didn’t really happen, and Hitler didn’t really mean to do all that. We have Yasir Qadhi on video talking about how you can take the property and the life of the Christian and the Jew in jihad. And yet there was James White saying he sensed a kindred spirit with Yasir Qadhi, involved in an interfaith dialogue where they could find areas where they disagree and areas where they agree. And he said he sensed a kindred spirit with him. And he wanted Qadhi to make a video and teach the church the real face of Islam. He let him sit there and bemoan Christ and deny the resurrection, saying that Christ was not really crucified, that it was a fraud. And he didn’t answer him.

And did you know that in the last few weeks James White has tweeted that he’s going to do two more nights with Yasir Qadhi. Two more nights with Yasir Qadhi, and interfaith dialogue. And last June, a year ago right now, with Usama Dakdok and Shahram Hadian, we began to expose that and play those clips and oppose it. And we had folks within evangelicalism come against us, not dealing with the facts, but personal attacks.

And what is so shocking is that one of the biggest defenders of this was a man by the name of Phil Johnson, executive director of John McArthur’s Grace to You. And he tweeted this: “Have you not read, most of the rebukes he, (speaking of Jesus), delivered to erroneous ways and teachings took place in interfaith dialogues?”

My friends, do you see that? Do you see that? Did you ever think you’d see the day when the executive director of Grace to You would be saying Jesus was involved in interfaith dialogue? You know it makes you wonder if this guy really knows the Bible. Because it’s pretty clear in 2 Corinthians 6:14-17, “what fellowship does righteousness have with unrighteousness, or light with darkness, or things of God with the things of Baal? Don’t do these things. Don’t mix these things. No, interfaith dialogue, trying to find common ground with unrighteousness or satanic or demonic things is strictly prohibited. Jesus may have been involved in dialogue with people. But Jesus was not involved in interfaith dialogue. Maybe he doesn’t know what the word ‘interfaith’ really means.

He went on to actually tweet, “but interfaith dialogue, some kind is mandated by the second great commandment.” Phil Johnson. Executive director of Grace to You, John McArthur’s ministry. How sad is that? And you would think, again, this would cause people to avoid James White. But here, unfortunately, is the bulletin from Grace Church from last Sunday. What are they announcing?

[quote] That this week, June 11-15, the Grace Community Church and the Master’s Seminary will be having a presentation by James White. [end quote]


I would think James White would not be someone they should bring to speak – notice he’s going to speak on Islam. Well, look at that. It says Islam, Roman Catholicism, Islam and a Biblical approach to defending your faith. Really? Is that what he showed us when he came to Memphis and sat with a Jew-hating, Holocaust-denying, Hitler-defending Imam? He proved to us and in his debate with Robert Spencer that he doesn’t know enough about Islam. Why would they bring him there? Why would they bring someone there like that who has been involved in interfaith dialogue and says he senses a kindred spirit with someone like Yasir Qadhi, who wants Qadhi to make a video to teach the true face of Islam when Yasir Qadhi has been involved in raising money, according to numerous sources, for organizations all over the world tied to jihad. Go look up Yasir Qadhi. You don’t have to trust me. Why on earth would any Christian be involved in interfaith dialogue with him? And why on earth would anyone from a Bible ministry defend interfaith dialogue and say Jesus was involved in interfaith dialogue?

Do you understand now why it’s so difficult for the church? Even true Christians that are part of the true church? They don’t know if they should oppose interfaith dialog or if they should fight interfaith dialogue. They don’t know because of what they’re seeing esteemed evangelical men do.

In closing, I would point us to the words of William C. Sullivan, assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the FBI, October 19, 1961 where he gave a speech talking about churches and Christian leaders that buy into communism.

[quote] “…failing to recognize obvious communist propaganda in petitions, open letters, clemency appeals, pamphlets, etc., mistaken notions that clergymen can work with communists for peace, civil rights, ending racial discrimination, etc., without harming religion and strengthening communism.” [end quote] 

Can I say, my friends, I believe we have religious leaders today who are exceeding their field of competence not only in the area of Islam, but in the area of understanding interfaith dialogue? Just because you went to a Bible college for a couple years doesn’t mean you’re an expert on interfaith dialogue, Islam or Marxism. And tonight we have seen interfaith dialogue is a key battle ground, key tool of the Marxists for organizing churches for Marxism. And, again, I say, many real Christians don’t know whether they should oppose interfaith dialogue or join it because we have well known evangelicals telling us Jesus was involved in interfaith dialogue. That is a lie.

So tonight we have seen the Gamaliel Foundation and network started by a man named Gregory Galluzzo, a former Jesuit priest who helped Barack Obama win the White House, who is organizing as Marxist churches. And I believe they’re organizing that false dominant church that eventually will lead to the false church of Revelation 17. Let’s not be a part of the interfaith network.

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All right. I hope you appreciate our broadcast tonight. You can’t imagine the hours that go into preparing just this 60 minute presentation to you tonight. So I hope you appreciate it. I hope it’s helpful. And I hope it puts you on the alert to be a watchman, to not fall for these words of interfaith dialogue, common good, human flourishing. Look into these things. Examine them. Because they’ve already admitted they’re using the non-Marxist, non-socialist, non-progressive terms so that they don’t scare away the working people. So be very careful what you’re getting involved in. Just because someone claims to be religious or a pastor or a reverend, doesn’t mean that they’re promoting truth. Christ himself warned us about the false teachers in the last days.

And don’t forget, the Fabian window. What’s their logo? A wolf in sheep’s clothing. So let’s be pointing out and warning our family and friends about the interfaith networks that are organizing churches, “churches” for Marxism.

Thank you so much for watching. We look forward to talking to you on the radio tomorrow at 1:00 PM central time. And back here next Sunday night for another Situation Room Briefing. Until then, I’m Brannon Howse. Thanks for watching. Take care.   

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